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Conversations We Usually Avoid
Out now on Spotify — latest episode released 24 September 2026. With Bhav and Issy.

ConversationsWe UsuallyAvoid

We talk about the many things we all live through but try to ignore: explored through two journeys, two cultural lenses, spiritual curiosity and a bit of humour.

Be first to listenWhat do we mean by the conversations that we usually avoid?

The idea

What do we mean by the conversations that we usually avoid?

This is about big transitions, endings, raw emotions and inspiring others to say the things that are kept inside of us... the words that live within change, grief, identity, relationships, illness, bodies, careers, belief systems and everything in between. Approached with lightness and a little fluff.

Outgrown selves, unconscious habits, and unspoken truths. We all carry them...

As hypnotherapists and practitioners, we spend our lives peering behind the psychological curtain. But this definitely isn't going to be clinical or therapeutic advice, nor is it polished self help. It’s an unfiltered look at the messy, chaotic stuff. Expect sharp truths, dangerous honesty, radical self compassion, and the probably some wildly inappropriate laughs.

Meet the hosts

The people carrying the conversation

By day, we like to navigate the deep, murky waters of the subconscious and psychological nuances and by night, we're navigating our own epically imperfect lives. Consider this your invitation to join two humans dropping the jargon, calling bullshit on perfection, and laughing through the uncomfortable conversations we collectively try to avoid.

CO-HOST · HYPNOTHERAPIST & TRAINEE PSYCHOTHERAPIST

Bhav - Founder of The Lila Room

Full time therapist, part time chaos consultant

I’m here for the messy bits of being human. Grief, identity, endings, becoming, and the things we’d rather avoid saying out loud.

My work as a therapist, alongside my own journey, has taught me that understanding ourselves is only half the story. The rest is learning how to actually live with what we find.

I bring curiosity, honesty and a fascination with what sits beneath the surface, with the belief that even the deepest conversations can leave room for a good laugh. 

The Lila Room

CO-HOST · HYPNOTHERAPIST & HOLISTIC THERAPIST

Issy - Founder of Held Ground

Excavating meaning in mess

I’m here for the heavy, chaotic, and aggressively unspoken. My path to working with the mind-body-soul connection started long before private practice. From managing primary school classrooms to supporting the most marginalised teenagers in the criminal justice system. Those frontlines taught me that every defence mechanism, rebellion, or quiet withdrawal is simply a human being doing their absolute best to feel safe.

I run on trauma informed curiosity, dark humour, and an endless fascination with the subconscious & unconscious mind. For me, therapy, and this podcast, aren't about pathologising your life or offering toxic positivity. They're about making room to laugh through the chaos, drop the performance, face the raw bits and unpack the things that have been lurking in our emotional junk drawers.

Held Ground

For listeners who

This might be for you if…

You’ve grieved the non-traditional stuff

Not just people, but lost timelines, former bodies, abandoned careers, and the alternate lives you left behind.

You're immune to toxic positivity

No self help waffle or just manifest it lingo. Two therapists, who are also humans, dropping the (kind of) poise for real talk on the carnage of being human.

You're done pretending you've got it figured out

You know that personal growth isn't a neat, linear line, and you're ready to embrace the awkward, unscripted reality of it all alongside us.

You use dark humour as a coping mechanism

Because when the existential abyss stares back at you, staring it down with a bit of a laugh is sometimes the only response.

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